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What Pope Francis says about Cardinals in the Curia:

“Everyone has to live in their own way. The cardinals in the curia, at least the ones I know, don’t live like wealthy people. They have fairly modest apartments. But in a general sense, austerity is necessarily for all those who work in the service of the church.”

“There are saints in the Roman curia, among the cardinals, priests, religious, sisters and laity. They work hard, and also do things that are often hidden. I know some who concern themselves with feeding the poor, or who give up their free time to work in a parish. As always, the ones who aren’t saints make the most noise … a single tree falling makes a sound, but a whole forest growing doesn’t.”